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Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

Posted by Lana Gay on Mar 28, 2011

In 1968 Michigan’s Herman Miller Company introduced the open-office style called “The Action Office”.  Forty three years later, 70% of the workforce spends their workdays in “open action” style, but we just prefer to say cubicles.  In fact, you may be listening right now from yours! What’s on your desk? Do share.

Even Radio 3, in all its indie glory, is part of cubicle culture, though I’d have to say some of us, ahem, have a different celebration of their 5x5 space.
Ever want to see what our offices really look like? Check out the quick video tour of my cubicle (should you be jealous of my Robert Goulet mask, you can make your own here)

WHAT IS YOUR WORKSPACE LIKE?
Any collections? Hot sauce? Are you a neat freak?
Do you think cubicle culture is as depressing as it’s portrayed?


Post your comments on the blog, email feedback@CBCradio3.com or tweet @CBCRadio3

Coming up, an interview with Doug Savage, cartoonist and creator of Savage Chickens, A Survival Kit for Life in the Coop.

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By day, he edits software manuals, by night he doodles chicken cartoons on sticky notes and posts them on his blog, which is one of the most popular cartoon blogs in the world! Can’t wait to hear his tips on surviving in the cubicle world!

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  1. Tandy Sean
    01

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Believe it or not I work in an open office and the sales team recently commisdsioned cubicles for their section of the space. They actually wanted them! They hated open concept and didn't want anything to do with shared space. Personally I couldn't imagine anything less imaginative and boring.

  2. cleaver
    02

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Great topic. I spend my days in a cubicle. My desk, is covered in books... stacks and stacks of them. I haven't personalized my space yet, though, beyond the awesome lunch/coffee break sign that my boyfriend drew for me, of a robot drinking from a tea cup.

  3. MusicSoop
    03

    Hot Sauce

    I just tossed my bottle of Cholula cause it was starting to look a little weird.  Are you supposed to refrigerate hot sauce after you open it?

  4. TheRadioHead
    04

    I have such a great job, no cubicle for me!

    The closest thing to my work space would be my (stereo on wheels) car.  I spend lots of time in it and have made it comfy. Coffee cup, lip balm, shopping bags, skates, sat rad & GREAT stereo, nail files, umbrella, extra shades, paper towels, pain relievers.

     

    Love that Patsy Cline pic, Lana.  She is a godess.  And your plant will never bloom again unless you get it into a window! 

  5. Lana Gay
    05

    @theradiohead

    When it's sunny I give it a vacation to the window! And on weekends! Promise!

  6. kirkofdoom
    06

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Aside from one month working reception at my dad's office, when they were desperate for a temp and I was desperate for a job... I have never worked an office job, or a job where I really had a "permanent space"

    I guess the closest was when I worked projection at a movie theatre. The main desk area was adorned with all sorts of movie posters, as you might expect.

    If/when I do get a desk, I'm sure I'll have all sorts of weird knick knacks on it. Like finger drums.

  7. TheRadioHead
    07

    I believe you!

    I could tell by how green it was that it got more than just flourescent light!

  8. kirkofdoom
    08

    at Lana

    after linking to the finger drums, i was looking around thinkgeek and found something else that i want, and that i am pretty sure you would also be interested in...

    R2-D2 trash can.

  9. Katto H
    09

    yay for open offices!

    This topic is my job.

    as a facilities planner, I deal with this issue every single day.

    While many people perceive open offices as "cubicles" this isn't what we practice.  truly open spaces are collaborative and open, not enclosed into smaller cubicles.  with the cost of real estate so high these days, our job is to ensure that people are working in spaces that are dictated by job functions, not status.    Also, for good practice, people should have access to daylight, so the old rule that offices should be along the windows with open spaces in the central core is OUT the window.....

    My desk is in a "pod" filled with 3 other members of our team.  We are collaborative and engaged with each other ALL day.  In general, in our office project teams are organized into pods (groups of 6-10 desks of people working together in one open space, partitioned only by 4 foot high walls).

    Herman Miller and Steelcase have great open office solutions, which have changed greatly since this concept was first developed. 

    I could go on and on, but research shows that people do work much more effectively in smaller, open workstation as opposed to offices and cubicles.

  10. Lana Gay
    10

    @katto H

    Oooh, interesting! Great comment!

  11. boders
    11

    Peter Kernel!

    I really enjoyed that track. It looks like their R3 page is newer but the info references 2005 through 2007. From Kenora/Switzerland?!? Still playing together as they have a summer date at a festival in Switzerland...anyone know anything else about this group?

  12. robin_m
    12

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Well, I don't have a cubicle, but I have a desk... and I am very particular.  For instance, I have MY pen, and I find it very difficult to write without MY pen.  I am mildly OCD when it comes to neatness, so I guess my workspace and any work related things that I come into contact with get the "Mel's stamp of approval" - meaning that everything MUST be categorized, and organized, and if it isn't...well, nothing that I come into contact with would suffer that horrid fate.   

  13. robin_m
    13

    ...and if my point didn't come across there...

    NEATNESS makes me happy :) I know, I'm nuts.  

  14. boders
    14

    Question to the Web Devs, or who it concerns

    Why can I not give a 'Thumbs Up' to the Cadence Weapon feat. Shad "Baby I'm Yours"? I love this track. I can go to Cadence's artist page and add it to a playlist and play on demand from there. Same thing went for that Peter Kernel track as well...

    @Lana - I'm right there with you on "Baby I'm Yours"..amazing!! So what's the deal? Oh, you knew that was an older Peter Kernel song..what's their deal? It was great.

  15. boders
    15

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    If there turns out to have been a glitch on thumbs up'ing some tracks (could be my comp, but I can see the thumbs for all these other songs!) please retroactively add 1,398 thumbs up to "Baby I'm Yours". Just for the record, from me.

  16. TheRadioHead
    16

    @KattoH

    Your comment made me think about the evolution of office spaces.  I worked in an office after graduating and it was an open space, ala Mad Men.

    I think the introduction of the 5 foot high walled cubicle was dehumanizing, and goes against our social natures.  I believe the goal was to increase privacy and therefore productivity, but humans will always find a way to interact and will find other means. 

    I go into offices in my line of work, and don't find those tall cubicles around much anymore, other than in accounting/financial firms where output, not creativity is expected.

    Thanks for your comment, it was thought provoking!

  17. Katto H
    17

    @ Lana

    Thanks!  I think it's the first time I can actually comment with some confidence on what I'm talking about. 

    but I just realized that I didn't really answer your question.  My desk is pretty awesome.

    other than my CPU, 2 monitors and a phone, I have pictures of my cats, my boyfriend sitting with a beaver (true), art by Jackson Pollack and Alexander Calder and my favourite pictures from my Apartment Lobby collection (book to be released 2011, hopefully!), plus lots of photos of players from canucks fundraisers I'm involved with.

    I am EXTREMELY organized, so I have about 8 matching desk trays, stacked to organize what little paper I have.  I am anti paper and printing so my desk stays pretty tidy except for the drawings I'm reviewing and a few notes here and there.

    I feel like I LIVE at my desk (more than anywhere else) so I like it to reflect a bit of myself.  I also have a diamond rings picture that John gave me at the last show.  Thanks John!  and a small one of Phil Collins, because I love him.

  18. Katto H
    18

    @ theradiohead

    I'm glad to provoke dialogue.  Most people prefer private spaces, and some threaten leaving their organizations if they were to lose their offices, but when it all happens and they are in their new spaces, not one person to date has ever left. 

    There are even studies that show that people naturally lower their phone voices when placing calls in open spaces.  We naturally adjust to our environments, whether we intend to or not. 

  19. boders
    19

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Threaten to leave! Wow! Not that I can't see it happening, just striking to think about. I guess it's perceived as a drop in status.

  20. nvp
    20

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    WHAT IS YOUR WORKSPACE LIKE?

    I'll bet it's pretty typical IT guy: books, various electrical and computer components, obligatory xkcd and dilbert essentials.

    oh except i have a window.  with mountains, trees, water, and downtown in it!

    Any collections?  origami things, wire sculptures, cds without music :(

    Hot sauce? hmm.  i don't think so.  if so it's buried.  possibly soy sauce and wasabe as well.

    Are you a neat freak?  freak yes, neat: not so much.

    Do you think cubicle culture is as depressing as it’s portrayed?

    nope.

  21. theBeav
    21

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    My Desk -

    Opperations center for a big building downtown Van.

    big, many monitors and mice.... mouses? /keyboards phones, pens (never find one when i need it)

    I cant get away much so i tend to eat and make tea here. it can get cluttered. 

    Always cbc3, with no complains from the cubicle dwellers behind me.

  22. Christine McAvoy
    22

    My Workspace...

    Has changed since I switched apartments.

    My desk used to face a wall in my bedroom, I never used it, too dark and sad. I used to sit on the couch and do work, or at my dining table.

    Now that I've moved my desk is facing a window!, although it's right next to my bed, and I spend the first hour of work in it with my laptop.

    Collections: magazines ...They are EVERYWHERE. stacks, piles, boxes. my life and my addiction.

    Neat freak?: generally yes. my "inbox" is always a pile of stuff, but I find it hard to work when my apartment is messy.

    What's on my desk: a scanner, various photo equipment, at least 2 harddrives, photos, more magazines, and currently? lunch, which because I work at home, includes a beer today.

    How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing: I used to have plants, the fire kinda killed them, but soon I will plant things and that will make me happy. i also like to put dvd's on (when not listening to R3) so that there is sound in my apartment and i'm not just staring blankly at my computer screen for hours in silence. And then there is LUNCH...actually having a break and making a decent meal, makes the day much better...

  23. Katto H
    23

    @ Boders

    Lawyers are the worst - they apparently need offices

  24. skarolla
    24

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    too bad you can't post pictures, i have a picture of me shotgunning a redbull to get through the day haha.

  25. boders
    25

    @Katto

    Hah! They went to extra school for that status! And pushing arguments is some of their line of work...what a pain in the ass battle that would have been. Glad to hear your work paid dividends in the end.

  26. boders
    26

    @skarolla

    meaning something on your end from preventing you from doing so? Otherwise, you can click on 'Edit My Pictures' on the lefthand sidebar near the top of the page and upload images there. Pic in top left of the grid will show as your profile pic...

  27. skarolla
    27

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    yes i just figured that out, thanks!

  28. AlexOfAnders
    28

    I work in the hive

    Well, I think that facitilies calls them pods but since they're hexagons it makes me think of honeycomb. Basically there's a desk at each point of the hexagon with one point missing so we can get in and out. I'm not sure what it's like in real cube-land since our walls are between 3.5 - 5 feet high and completely open in the middle. It's great for working with your team cause I can just spin around and talk to my team members or stand up and see if X person I need to talk to is at their desk.

    My actual desk though? Well, I'm what you'd call the office scavenger. If it's up for grabs, I'm the dude grabbing. Managed to get myself a nice bookcase, used to have about 5 machines before IT found out. Don't have too much for nicknacks aside from my working and historically accurate catapult and Cap'n Crunch action figure. Oh, and there's a nice "Keep Out" sign that's supposed to look like it's written in blood on the back of my bookcase facing the walking path.

    @Tandy - From what I hear of sales people is that the proper cubes better isolate sound because overhearing a bunch of other people on calls doesn't sound so professional when you're trying to tie up a sale or help your concertration between sales.

     

  29. designrox
    29

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Have nothing personal on or around my desk. Only books related to work. I don't want it to feel so permanent I guess!
  30. boders
    30

    @skarolla

    Bahah! Nice. You weren't messing around either. You wrote 'shotgunning' but I still just pictured slamming it back quickly...you showed me!

    @Alex - "used to have about 5 machines before IT found out" hehehe. Still gigglin' at that.

  31. Katto H
    31

    @ Alex

    Do you work in this hive?  One of the truest collaborative spaces I've ever seen. 

    http://hivevancouver.com/

  32. arcticwoman
    32

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    More or Les - Busted Gear: Yikes, homo/transphobic lyrics on my CBC. Dressing flamboyantly doesn't make a man less a man. 

  33. mcfflyer
    33

    Cubicles! Made by prison labor!

    Hey, the labor's cheap.  Most of the larger departments in the California government use cublicles - and actually all office furniture - made by the factories in the state prisions.  Honestly, not bad stuff, but it does mean that office after office, department after department looks the same.

    The prisons also make the furniture for the state college dormitories.  And no, nothing manufactured in the prisions is availble to the public - other than license plates.

    And my semi-private cube personalized?  Lots of Oregon State University stuff (Go Beavs!), some photos, stuff from my kids.

  34. cathyort
    34

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Michigan/Nevada Meetings + Events/N2DS2W Central!

    Four computers (two towers, two laptops)

    Two vintage office chairs

    Four speakers

    Two cameras

    One TV (for watching racing and Strombo)

    One Slinky

    One defunct inkjet printer, one cranky ten-key calculator, one outdated/outmoded scanner

    One Scottish flag

    50 pack of Cds and jewel cases for burning CDs

    Assorted papers

    Steamwhistle coaster

    Assorted other flotsam and jetsam

    All on one L-shaped desk.

     

  35. carlyg
    35

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    WHAT IS YOUR WORKSPACE LIKE?  I work in a converted warehouse building, so it's super cool and industrial. I have a desk with a half wall in front of me. I guess it's cubilcalesque. There are massive windows across the room so it's quite bright and in here!

    Any collections?  No... It's fairly boring.

    Hot sauce?  I do have two different types of hotsauce in the fridge in the kitchen.

    Are you a neat freak?  Yes. My desk is very organized.

    Do you think cubicle culture is as depressing as it’s portrayed? It's definitely protrayed as depressing. In reality I don't think it's too bad.

  36. carlyg
    36

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Oh... I also meant to say that this website has some of the coolest offices ever!

    I love The Cool Hunter!

  37. boders
    37

    "the labor's cheap" - and plentiful

    thanks to an insane mandatory sentencing system that keeps private prisons full...go prison lobby! 

  38. Giselle Renarde
    38

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Oh my gosh, am I ever glad to work from home!  My desk is beside my bed, which I wouldn't recommend unless you want your work to bleed into your sex life.  But I write porn for a living, so I'm good with that.

    hehehe

    Giselle

  39. Steve Venegas
    39

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    There's this one girl in the office and I keep mispronouncing her first name. 

    I don't mean to. But I have feeling she wants to dropkick me in the back of the head. 

  40. nvp
    40

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Giselle Renarde:  winning

  41. carlyg
    41

    @Giselle

    You just took the prize for most interesting job!

  42. krib
    42

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Funnily enough, the stuff that's not made by California State prision labour all looks the same, too

     

    I really need to bring some hot sauce in. I have to find a container first, though, because we tend to by Frank's Red Hot in 4-litre containers at home. I need something smaller to bring some to work. Usually, I just douse any leftovers at home before coming to work. Sometimes you forget, though, and have nothing for spice but pepper in those little paper packets. You know how many packets of those it takes to kick it up a notch? A lot!

  43. keydive
    43

    My Workplace

    My Workspace is a lovely cubicle on the 7th floor of a building that clearly has menopause where the temperature can fluctuate from a low of 12C(this winter) to a high of 37C(last summer).  Not the best building you could find.

    My space is somewhat personalized as I have a picture of My sisters. And a few posters that have come out of record sleeves on my walls.  Other than that it is quite cluttered right now with maps and notes due to the amount of work that I have on the go right now. 

    Someone mentioned that they wouldn't go to the open office style and as far as I am concerned I would prefer a cubicle to open office as then at least there is some blocking of conversations and a little bit of privacy.  Or other office in town has open office and I am not a fan.

    Someone mentioned that they wouldn't go to the open office style and as far as I am concerned I would prefer a cubicle to open office as then at least there is some blocking of conversations and a little bit of priavacy.  Or other office in town has open office and I am not a fan.

  44. ubermiguel
    44

    @ Giselle

    Haha!  Great joke.

    *follows link in profile*

    I am plesantly suprised.

  45. Katto H
    45

    I submit for further consideration

    said photo (from my desk) of my man with a beaver.  Personally, I really do think it adds something to my desk.  just sayin........

  46. krib
    46

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    my desk gradually gets cluttered with paper that other people give me in meetings that I never file. Once it gets into large enough piles, I go through them and either throw them in the blue box or send them off for shredding.

    I'm not very good with paper

  47. mcfflyer
    47

    @boders [37]

    Not so much the "prison lobby", Cam, I think people were furious that habitual criminals would get out and do another crime, espcially violent crimes, and so we had Proposition 184 in 1994 that passed with a pretty impressive 72% vote.  If anything, it might be too sweeping - but just try to modify it.  Public won't go for it, even though prisons are a big part of the state budget.

  48. caits
    48

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Bright pink letter trays, felt mice on a wall, my Kinder Surprise robot, as well as artwork and cards reminding me of people, creativity and of places throughout the world.  Not to mention having my radio3 playing all day long.  Pretty skookum.

  49. mcfflyer
    49

    And Lana -

    even though I regularly eat my lunch at my desk (what?  Miss Grant's show?  At least when he's here...), I do not have any hot sauce here.

    Then again, last time I mentioned what I like both you and AlexofAnders took me to task.  I wouldn't want to face that ridicule again.   *sniff*

  50. ReCoRd sLave
    50

    Re: Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

     

    Hey Lana!

    I have a question as an answer... I work in a 12’x14’ room in our office with two others. We have our three corner desks in our file cabinets etc. One window that opens is at the desk of... the smoker. There is no dividing wall. The issue I have is how to deal with the smoker’s stench from the frequent smoke breaks, the annoying cover-up gum chewing and the loud phone manner all without causing too much hard feelings. Me and the other non smokers are struggling with this issue.  

     

    To compensate, we sing stupid songs in the office when nobody is around and we are slowly collecting plants. Oh the joys of office work...

  51. cathyort
    51

    @ReCoRd sLave

    Good heavens, there are still offices that allow smoking???!!!

  52. keydive
    52

    Low wall cubicles

    I notice that a lot of you like the lower wall cubicles or at least like the idea of them.

    I would say yeah they are great unless you work in an environment where you spend a good chunk of time on the phone.  Then they are just plain annoying.  Having to try to talk to someone over the phone and not have other peoples conversations interupt yours or yours interupting theirs is a nice feature of the 4.5 foot cubicle wall.

  53. krib
    53

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    he's M.C. Fflyer? I never knew that. I've always said it like a Scottish name. McFflyer, like Marty McFly

  54. Christine McAvoy
    54

    <---my desk

    on a clear day, i can see the mountains. :)

  55. mcfflyer
    55

    @cathyort

    Wow, now that's something that I haven't thought about in years and years - smoking in the office.  When I started with the State of California in 1975, I was thrilled to get this job, making a whopping $810 per month.  Heck.  I was rich.  But smoking was completely permitted.  It was just part of our culture then.  I was in a long narrow room, easily the youngest of a group of six, and in that room, one guy chain smoked cigarettes, one smoked a pipe (chocolate blend), and one older Japanese-American gentleman, smoked cigars.  And inhaled them.  Not quality cigars, but those cigars you could get back then that came in a plastic bag with 20 for $1, and I likened them to "smoking turds".  Sorta looked like them too.

    No doubt, the air in that room was barely breathable and full of carcinogens, and since I have never smoked, something to endure.  However, I was absolutely thrilled to have this job.

    Times do change, and some stuff is way for the better.  BTW, California has the lowest per capita smoking rates in the USA other than Mormon-dominated Utah.

  56. mcfflyer
    56

    That should have been -

    Re: cathyort [51], not specifally @ her!

  57. grub
    57

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    I feel left out, never had a cubicle.

    Lana,at lest you are not in a cubicle all day like some of the people.You can escape in the studio.

  58. kathyjean
    58

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    Soo here is my workspace! From left to right...

    You'll notice a large piece of brownie/cake that was given to me by the lady at my favourite sushi place in Stoon.. we's tight. :) 

    Next to that is my working paper organizer thing. I use it every day for the papers I use. Planner and a to-do list next to that, and sticky notes - all things I need to stay on top of my duties. Pen cup and phone. 

    On my half-cubicle/bulletin board wall thing, you'll see some cards/pictures/buttons that have been given to me (there's a CBC one on there from Grant!) and some other notes with numbers and info that I need to have at my fingertips usually. And a calandar.

    There's my computer, of course with CBC 3 on the screen. Part of my daily routine! I open my email, my 2nd email, then my browser, and straight to Radio 3, and/or CFCR. On my monitor stand, you'll see a cube thing that's actually the shape of a rectangle with the NYC skyline. A dream of mine to head there!

    So before this gets too long and boring, that's it. I do my best to stay organized!

  59. ReCoRd sLave
    59

    @cathyort

    No there is no smoking IN the office. It's just the lingering stench that follows the smoker back into the building. It's so gross and unfourtinate.

  60. mcfflyer
    60

    @ReCoRd sLave

    And to think there used to be smoking sections on planes.

    I will say I was very impressed on my 2003 trip across Canada to find a huge decline in public smoking from a similar trip in 1977.  I thought that the smoking might have been an issue for us, but in three weeks in Canada from coast to coast, it wasn't at all.

  61. boders
    61

    @Lee

    Well, you're there and I was still pretty young back then, but I have a hard time believing the prison lobby isn't/wasn't part of the force making sure crime fears are ratcheted up as high as possible (not to say that recidivism wasn't/isn't a problem, just that it's in their interests to make sure concerns about crime be elevated) When you have private prisons, lobbying and application of money levers is part of the game.

    I'm glad you're willing to concede that the three strikes law is too sweeping in it's application :) (Although don't like your hesitancy to do so!) 72% passage is a landslide, but as you know, I think that California's ballot initiatives are a good example of too much democracy that have yielded an untenable budget situation that still seems a long way off from improving. With good cause do we have a justice system designed against falling into mob justice.

  62. boders
    62

    Love

    this Purity Ring track!! So good and it gave me all sorts of cred when I introduced my buddies brothers dubstep crazy friends to it.

  63. Spud
    63

    Here's my workspace

    Turns out I have a clutter issue. Got some brain-teaser puzzles there.. empty drink recepticles, dreary view of backs of collegues' heads with dull downtown alleyscape beyond.

    Ugh, I think I'm going to go home.

  64. cathyort
    64

    @ReCoRd sLave

    Goes for the unwashed and the overly perfumed as well!

  65. TheRadioHead
    65

    Purity Ring!

    When the artist described it a dubstep, it piqued my interest, as I love electronic music, but had never heard of this before.  I was sick much of the weekend, so spent hours on youtube where there are many dedicated dubstep channels.  Man, do I ever love it.

    I did go out Saturday night to a new music festival in an old warehouse.  It had to wrap up by 1 am, as there was going to be a dubstep party from 2am to 5 am.  Two weeks ago I would not have know what it was. 

    You should have seen the gear they were bringing in!!!  Holy shit, I wonder whether that old building is still standing. I really wanted to stay but my lame kids wanted to go.  They are soooo lame.

  66. cathyort
    66

    @TheRadioHead

    This might amuse you: saw a sticker on a car the other day, "I love you but I've decided to go with techno."

    Ha!

  67. TheRadioHead
    67

    Ugh

    Why is it you don't see your typo's until after you post?  My excuse is that I am still sick.

  68. mcfflyer
    68

    @boders [61]

    I have no argument against anything you said in your post.  California's three strikes initiative is too broad, although, especially  that the law is written that the judges have no leeway in its application.  Three small robberies, and you're in the can for 25 years.

    However, if anything that might change that is the cost.  Everything the state does is now under fire - from prisions to my salary.  Although you think our ballot initiatives is an example of "too much democracy", sometimes its the only way to get the legislator's attention, such as the passive of Proposition 13 in 1978 that totally changed how local governments, especially the counties and school districts got revenue to operate by totally changing the way property taxes were assessed and taxed, as some people were finding their taxes going up so much they couldn't afford them, being taxes out of their homes.  (Heck, I'm benefitting, as the taxes I pay on my house are tied to my ex-wife's purchase of the house in 1979!).  And now, our Democratic governor wants to keep the temporary tax increases from two years ago for another five years, but needs approval from the senate and legistature to get it.  He's two votes short in both houses, and the Republicans are vehiment in preventing democracy from happening - us to vote on it.  Already university costs are skyrocketing, and the state university system has said that they are admitting 10,000 less students next year.  School districts are closing schools.  But don't let those taxes go up by a dollar, no matter what.

    That said, maybe the three strikes law will be modificed to cut down on our prison population (which is horribly overcrowded) and thereby the costs.

  69. boders
    69

    @TheRadioHead

    "my lame kids wanted to go.  They are soooo lame." Hehehe...they just have a too cool mom to stand in comparison against! Saw some kids with serious DJ skills when I was in Powell River last week. All just from providing the soundtrack to all night parties. Wish I had gotten into that scene when I was younger...

  70. AlexOfAnders
    70

    @TheRadioHead

    Purity Ring describes itself as dubstep? Really? I'm no dubstep expert seeing as my only exposure has been from my brother's gf as she hosted a dubstep show on CiTR for about 7 years (btw, she's re-launching it as a podcast soon) but Purity Ring doesn't really strike me as dubstep.

  71. boders
    71

    @Lee

    Oh man, you don't need to get me started on the GOPer's in the Statehouse...

    And I can't deny that I'd back any number of ballot initiatives that have passed or would I assert that they aren't capable of producing good outcomes...

    Correct me if I'm wrong though, but isn't the 2/3rd's majoryity called for to raise taxes in legislature (that has allowed for years of Repub's preventing any kind of budgetary improvements) a result of a ballot initiative?

  72. TheRadioHead
    72

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    @Cathyort-Ya, I get that! Doesn't earn you a lot of friends or lovers. 

    @Boders-younger??? Pfft!

    @Alex-other than the sub bass, I think the definition is weak, to many vocals and doesn't really have the wobbly bass, but not non-existent.  In any case I am glad she said it, as it opened a door for me.

    OK, I'm out the door again, only stopped in for a bit. Ciao

  73. boders
    73

    @Alex

    Well, TheRadioHead's post said "When the artist described it as dubstep"...I didn't hear their interview myself...but sounds dubstep influenced to me. What else is that backbeat/sound?

    @TRH - mostly in jest ;)

  74. AlexOfAnders
    74

    @boders

    I can see maybe a light dubstep influence, very light. It doesn't have the same character to me, more like it glanced at it but maybe I need to hear more of their stuff than the 1 song.

  75. boders
    75

    @Alex

    Whatever the influence, me likey :) Definitely want to hear more.

  76. Spud
    76

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    I guess there's some questions I'm supposed to answer?

    Any collections? I have 4 mind-teaser type puzzles..

    Hot sauce? Nope

    Are you a neat freak? Yes! Oh wait.. no. Definitely "no".

    Do you think cubicle culture is as depressing as it’s portrayed? It can be. I think it's a concerted effort by team leadership to establish a culture of collaboration and innovation, which would not be depressing. But if nobody makes a concerted effort to establish and maintain a positive, constructive culture, it will become depressing by default.

  77. AlexOfAnders
    77

    @TheRadioHead

    My brother's gf has been in the dubstep scene for a while, if you want I can let you know when here podcast starts up. Should be called Shadow Jugglers if she keeps the old name

  78. mcfflyer
    78

    @Cam

    Yes, you're right.  The super majority of 2/3 is required of both houses to pass a budget and to, in this case, put the ballot issue on the ballot.  (Ballot initiatives can come both from the legislature or from the public with a certain number of signatures from voters.)

    That 2/3 has been reduced to something like 55% in our last round of "democracy by the people" because the party out of favour but still has a number of members can block almost anything financial.  What is so horrible is that now there are no moderate Republicans.  They've been pushed out and now they are pure extremists, and will not compromise on anything for any reson no matter what!  Morons.  That's not how governments work. 

    I swear sometimes, the philosophy of the GOP is approaching the National Socialist Party from about 1935.  Scary.

  79. mcfflyer
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    @Cam

    BTW, Barry Bonds is on trial for perjury.  You can follow the tweets from the reporter at the trial.

    http://twitter.com/gwenknapp

    Pretty interesting stuff.  May have been (sorta) a SF hero, and did hit all those HRs, but he's still a jerk.

  80. boders
    80

    @Lee

    hit the nail on the head there - "no moderate Republicans" An almost dead and gone breed across the country; next round of nominations by the Tea Parties should see their end. Hurts us all in the end.

    @Alex - do they still do the dubstep boat parties you mentioned before?

  81. mcfflyer
    81

    @Cam

    We'll see how the Tea Partiers do when their kids cannot get into colleges because they had to cut off funding.  Soon, only the rich will be able to go to college.  And the University of California used to be free!!!!  I went to grad school at Sac State for $75/semester.

    Thing is, right now, state employees are scape goats.  Just ask my bretheren in Wisconsin. (And that used to be a progressive state!!)

    Gotta go home now and start loading Said The Whale's trailer, being damn sure that I put back on the great security lock I got for them!

  82. TheRadioHead
    82

    Dubstep

    I think the reason I had not known what dubstep was is that the guy that teaches me about electronica has moved to Montreal.  He was in the city to DJ that new music festival I refered to, and we talked a bit about it that night.

     

    Yes Alex, I will take you up on that podcast offer, thanks!

     

    And in my kids defense, I am able to go on 3 or 4 hours sleep, and neither of them inherited that gene...too bad for them, and consquently for me, too.

  83. brainwash
    83

    re: Today on Lanarama - Cubicle Culture! How Do You Make Your Workspace Less Depressing?

    This might be cheesy, but when I had a cubicle, my fave accessory was Radio 3!

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