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TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

Posted by Craig Norris on Apr 02, 2009

Here's Lee Hower!
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Hello up north, Land of the Loonies!  Because Craig said that everyone who wanted to host could host, I made the cut! It is your friendly Californian - from Sacramento - Lee Hower, aka mcfflyer, the very first international co-host with Craig. Such an honor! Ooops. I mean honour! I was fortunate that Craig gave me an extra week to prepare, as I had to go up into the rafters of the house to find where I stored my radio DJ voice, as well as my FCC Third-Class Radio-Telephone license, a requirement if you wanted to be a broadcaster in the States. Of course, they eliminated the need for this license, and look what happened to radio.

Not only am I the first American to co host with Craig, I am by far the oldest. I know you're wondering: just how did a guy from California in his mid 50s ever get interested in Canadian independent music? Well, I've asked myself that question - but I frankly don't care what the answer is. This is my "Fourteen Forever" period, as never have I been so interested in music: the songs, the bands, the band members. Just happens my niche is Canadian independent music. I've found what I like, and haven't attempted to see if we have any music like this here. However, my 22 year old daughter describes radio3 as "Dad's Canadian Music", and that I listen to better music than she does.

Hit  to find out about Lee's Can-indie music discovery!

My music history goes back to the 1960s, back to the great years of Top 40 radio, which is really when music was fun and fun to listen to. You know, the early Beatles, The Beach Boys. Back then, I was more interested in radio than I was in music, and was a disc jockey in college and briefly professionally before going back to college for my master's degree.

Phase two of my musical interest was when MTV started in 1981. A television station with all these little three minute movies, those primitive early videos. Although I really enjoyed the New Wave movement, the first band I ever really wanted to see were The Go-Go's! I thought they were great, and admit to a crush on Belinda Carlisle. I never had a teenage crush on any musician before, so I thought I deserved one as I approached 30. Alas, MTV morphed away from playing music, and my marriage and children took me away from playing music loudly at all hours of the night, and the music did die for me.

So how'd I discover Radio3? In 2003, I remarried, and my wife to be handled the wedding and reception, and I handled the honeymoon. And I knew where I wanted to go: Canada. In 1977, I took a trans-Canadian trip by train from Vancouver to Nova Scotia and back, and I vowed to return.  I didn't realize that it would take me 26 years to make good on that vow. My wife, Linda, had never been to Canada, and so instead of the usual honeymoons to Hawaii, we flew to Seattle for our wedding night, and next morning took the train to Vancouver, and then rode VIA Rail from the Pacific to the Atlantic, Vancouver to Toronto to Montreal to Halifax. Five nights in a row on a train. Wow.  Then we spent 15 days touring the Maritimes.

While in Charlottetown, we saw the band, Boys Next Door, and after buying the CD that they had on hand, told them I wanted the album they were recording. They sent it to me, and by checking their website, saw that one of their songs was on a east coast music countdown show. Went to that website, and was astonished to find song after song that I not only liked, but wanted. So I went to Maple Music of Toronto to order the CD from Two Hours Traffic, and to make the order worthwhile, ordered a CD/DVD combination greatest hits album for a band that had moved from Halifax to Toronto.  Well, when I received Sloan's A Sides Win, I was blown away. Not only did I like the music, but I really enjoyed the DVD. Now I wanted to see Sloan.  And not knowing that Sloan travels down the West Coast, I drove 900 miles to Vancouver to see the band, meeting both Chris Murphy and Jay Ferguson.

I knew that Sloan was occasionally in the news, and one day I went to the regular CBC website and queried "Sloan". It connected me with radio3, and it was like being given a treasure chest, filled with incredible music. With that I became a regular listener, downloading every podcast, seeing acts that come through Northern California, and buying music either at shows, locally if available, or order them from Canada.

With my daughter attending my own alma mater, Oregon State University - Go Beavers! - and listening to this music, I certainly don't feel (or at least think) like I'm in my 50s. I never went to see live music when I was younger, but in the last three years, I've seen Sloan three times, Tegan and Sara twice, Wintersleep, The Golden Dogs, Hot Hot Heat, Joel Plaskett, and A.C. Newman.  My most recent show, last week in San Francisco, I saw Sam Roberts and Mother Mother. The photo was taken last Thursday specifically for this blog.  It was a great show.

Life's pretty good!

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  1. tb3
    01

    That photo, Lee

    Should be a new band! What with your dulcet tones… That's the makings of a pretty sweet choir right there!
  2. tb3
    02

    P.S.

    I have that same crush on Belinda Carlisle.

    Still.
  3. mattyjames2001
    03

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    This is bound to be good. I just turned it up a notch

    -matt
  4. mcfflyer
    04

    I hope you think it is good -

    It was incredibly fun to do.

    Lee
  5. Colin Medley
    05

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    Wow, what a great story! I'm especially happy it all started on the east-coast! I hold a special place in my heart for the music that comes from the maritimes.
  6. tb3
    06

    think its good?

    Dude, I bet when Craig heard that intro he made a quip about you taking his job. And if listened carefully, you, probably heard a percentage of seriousness in his voice. It's because you sounded great!

    Can't wait to hear this show unfold, I have money on you and Craig being the best tandem yet.
  7. mattyjames2001
    07

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    A trans-canada rail trip would be my ideal honeymoon as well! Great idea. Great story, 2nd chapter next week?

    -matt
  8. mattyjames2001
    08

    @tb3

    Give yourself some credit dude, yours was excellent.
  9. mcfflyer
    09

    I used tb3's show for my inspiration!

    Since I have the entire show on my iPod, I listened to it three times leading up to our recording on Tuesday. Without tb3, this whole co-host thing might have fizzled out!

    Heck, he's a Bucky Award recipient!

    Only thing I would have liked is to have done this in a studio. You sure can tell that I'm on the phone!

    Lee
  10. tb3
    10

    @mattyjames2001

    Hey thanks, and Lee was full of praise when I did mine too as we're IRL friends thanks to Radio3 and Pat. I imagine he felt the same way listening to me, as I do to him right now… today I am the proud friend.
  11. mattyjames2001
    11

    Bucky

    You won a bucky?????? for what? dedicated fan? I'm intrigued...

    -Matt
  12. mcfflyer
    12

    @colin

    I really love the Maritimes too. In 1977, I was standing at a railroad junction on PEI, looking at the red earth, and it was gently raining, and I said to myself, "I have to return to this place." I made good on that vow, returning to that very point - but I didn't expect it to take 26 years! Sure hope it isn't another 26 years to get back there.
  13. tb3
    13

    My Bucky…

    Back in nineteen ought thirty, I won a Bucky in the category of "This Guy Posts Way to Much in Out Blog and is Generally a HUGE P.I.T.A. Let's Shut Him Up" for my contribution to talking a lot about nothing.


    Seriously: I was the inaugural Fan of the Year.
  14. mattyjames2001
    14

    Bucky

    Sick man. Congratulations. Did you prepare a speech? Were you at least a gracious winner?

    Matt
  15. mcfflyer
    15

    Your Bucky, tb3

    And I'm a member of your fan club.

    BTW, how is Susan in Ohio? Still have her locked in your basement?
  16. tb3
    16

    mattyjames2001

    Like everything else I was a total a-hole. Picture Scotty, married with Don Imus. I think my acceptance speech set a record for longest censor tone ever.

    Lee, Susan… ever since she printed a Jijou puppet, the two have been seen heavy petting and makin' out on every park bench in the forest city.
  17. suckamc
    17

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    yay PEI mentions. :)

    Just got here, a bit late, but looking forward to the show!

    Martin
  18. mcfflyer
    18

    @tb3

    Speaking of (puke) Imus, his third radio stop in his career was here in Sacramento at KXOA in about 1966. KXOA was one of the two AM top 40 radio stations we had here in Sacratomato, back when life was simpler.
  19. tb3
    19

    If it weren't for the CBC cutbacks…

    I'd suggest the finale to this initiative is Pratt flying us all up to the Mother Mother Corp to record our very own TCNH C0-Host Initiative version of "Tears Are Not Enough".
  20. LeyLey
    20

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    doing a fantastic job mcfflyer :o)
  21. TheRadioHead
    21

    Hey Lee!

    I drove home at lunch to say hello, tb3 is recording this, and I can listen to the whole show later in the day.

    You shared this amazing story with me some time ago, and how great that everyone here now also can know it.

    We all have such unique histories, yet are united in one place, in this passion for music.

    Great to hear you, but you just outed me, man!!!

    Catch you late in the day.
  22. mcfflyer
    22

    @LeyLey

    Thanks for the complilment, Kimberley! (Ahh, I had cruash on a girl named Kimberley when I was in seventh grade!)

    Just remember, I'm only following in your footsteps. In the snow.

  23. MoniSki
    23

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    I love the picture mcffyler! :)
    Sam's a really nice fella isn't he?
    Also, I'm extremely jealous that you live in California :)


    And thanks for playing some Two Hours Traffic... you should definitely go see them live when you get a chance... they are honestly an amazing live band. You wouldn't be disappointed.
  24. mcfflyer
    24

    What's a "cruash"?

    Replace misspelling with "crush".
  25. tb3
    25

    He outed MusicSoop too!

    HAHAHAHAHA!

    But I couldn't agree more about your sentiment about the little community we've made outside of Radio3. I feel like I've made an extended family of people that know and love the same sort of things I do. All thanks to this place.


    And here I thought I would be the first one to out everyone ;)
  26. MoniSki
    26

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    oh and can i just asked...
    how are people recording the show? is there a special program?
  27. Bio Spice
    27

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    yes, i agree with TheRadioHead, it's lovely to hear your story, Lee, of how Canadian Indie music, and Radio3 became your thing. you're a wonderful story-teller!

    on an un-related, bragging note: I won the iPod touch for signing up for the Radio3 e-newsletter!!!! 21st century, here I come. thanks Radio3!!!!!!!!!
  28. mcfflyer
    28

    @MoniSki

    Hi! As I said this is the No. 1 band that I want to see. I think that any band that was formed by four chemistry students at a university (UPEI), is worth following! And from what they told me, three have their degrees and the other is a couple of units short. I'm a big college supporter (for both the education and experience - but also the FUN!), and glad to know they finished, even when success was starting.

    Another fact: I asked Chris Murphy of Sloan if any of guys had degrees. He told me they all did. But that's another story.

  29. worm
    29

    I also am jealous that you live in California

    Every time it snows here in Calgary in March, April, May, June, July, August, September (there isn't a month it hasn't snowed here at some time) I say to myself "I'm moving to California". My dad constantly said the same thing while I was growing up so I guess it is a pretty empty threat.
  30. Colin Medley
    30

    @mcfflyer

    Come to SappyFest this summer in Sackville, NB!
  31. tb3
    31

    @MoniSki

    I'm on a Mac, and I am using Wire Tap Studio. Works pretty great and even allows me to set up in advance to automatically start so's I don't forget and miss the show.
  32. AlexOfAnders
    32

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    Man, great story on the post! I always feel you're never too young or too old for music and it's great to hear how you found music again. If you ever make a giant trek to Vancouver for a band you'll have to let us know. I'm sure it'd bring a few of us Vancouver bloggers out.

    I'm jealous of your cross-Canada trips, that something I've been feeling I need to do.
  33. MoniSki
    33

    @mcffyler

    As a current student myself (i'm on my second institution at the moment)... I agree that going to school is great fun :) If I could be a professional student I would be... come to think of it... many Canadian musicians have degrees... i bet all that partying, and good times, and studying of course, made for great songs and musicianship :)
  34. Brand New Wave
    34

    Sackville

    Bagtown!
  35. MoniSki
    35

    @tb3

    If only I had a mac... but alas I do not.
    Perhaps there's another program I can find... hmmm
  36. jljakobsen
    36

    I never post on TCNH

    But I will today! (sometimes I am a little shy...)

    Thanks for sharing your story Lee. The R3 community is the best. I can't wait for the new site and we can all post how we came to love this great site/station. R3 was a revival in music for me also. It's all I talk about (and my cat). Listening makes my day everyday.

    Cheers to the R3 community!

    Jenelle
  37. tb3
    37

    A Brilliant Idea

    We all muse here about meeting one day in a common place, so I thought I would plant this seed…

    Everyone remember how Barenaked Ladies did that cruise ship thing this winter?

    What about a Radio3 Cruise?

    Think about it, the hosts doing live broadcasts for the entire cruise. And bands playing too! And we all can spend a week on a boat in a warmer climate with music, friends and all things Radio3. I know I'd spend my paper route for that vacation!
  38. tb3
    38

    Jenelle!

    You are the prime example!

    One day, your pic is the photo of the day. So I go to your Flickr page and make a comment because I like the photo.

    And here we are today, Twitter friends!
  39. Brand New Wave
    39

    RE: A Brilliant Idea

    In honour of our co-host, maybe we could a VIA rail cross-country trip instead of a cruise. I've never been to Vancouver, so it would be a nice starting point (funny thing though, I've spent a lot of time in the San Juaquin Valley in California).
  40. tb3
    40

    @Brand New Wave

    I love the idea of the VIA Trip, just not the cost… Paying for one person cross Canada on the train, would be like paying for the whole lot of us to go on the cruise.
  41. AlexOfAnders
    41

    @ R3 Love Boat

    That would be pretty awesome. I think I was saying yesterday that the thing that seemed like the least planning would be to agree to meet up at a music festival that Radio 3 would be at but the boat is a much more awesome idea if we could get them to go for it.

    Any ideas how we could get it rolling? R3 is gonna be short on money for the next year for sure.
  42. MoniSki
    42

    hmmmm

    I say we go camping up north some where... group camping is cheap! invite bands, the CBC 3 crew, like our own mini festival but way cooler :) Who doesn't like the wilderness of Canada?

  43. tb3
    43

    @AofA

    Leave it with me, since I am the one who floated the notion, I will do some snooping around…

    I think the cruise (R3 Courier du bois Cruise!) is the perfect thing because with people paying their own way, and with bands playing on it, I would hazard a guess it might be revenue neutral or even give R3 the chance to put some money back into the budget.
  44. tb3
    44

    @MoniSki

    I am down for that too. I say we storm Sarah Richardson's cottage!
  45. mcfflyer
    45

    Sorry, I was away from the box...

    BTW, I took this morning off so I could follow the posts. I didn't want to get interrupted at work!

    A trans-Canadian train trip would be nothing short of spectacular, but would not doubt be far more expensive than a cruise. Seriously. Besides, a cruise is one big party anyway! (I've only been on one, but across Canada three times!)

    I'd LOVE for us to have some sort of get-together so we could all meet each other, but Canada's such a big country, it seems impossible - unless one of us won the lottery and paid for everyone else to come to Vancouver/Toronto/Halifax! But through Radio3 I have met a several folks I consider great friends - and they've been posting here today. And what's so exciting is that we're all connected by this music. And to go to a show, and meeting people who all feel, "And you like --- too? That's great!" Makes us all such a special community! (The only time I felt a little out of place was at the Tegan and Sara shows, as I said. But I knew the words to the songs!)
  46. MoniSki
    46

    @tb3

    ooo a cottage....... let's do it!!
  47. tb3
    47

    My first 2 Hours Traffic Show…

    Joel Plaskett w/sg Two Hours Traffic at Call The Office here in London.
  48. mattyjames2001
    48

    Brilliant Ideas

    I was actually focusing on work there so I missed all these... but YES. A cruise would be kick ass. Sign me up now.

    Matt
  49. mcfflyer
    49

    I do suggest -

    that if you can ever do it, do take a train ride across Canada. It is such a magnificent way to see your country, from the forests and rivers and mountains of the west, the plains and praries, the Canadian Shield, and into Toronto. Then there's the wonderful ride east from Montreal. You should try to find a way to exerience it.

    Incidentally, I've been to all of the Canadian provinces - except for the one I had to take a ferry to - Newfoundland. Still regret not doing that in 1977.
  50. Absotively
    50

    Brilliant Ideas Are Brilliant

    Though I don't post much, I would probably sign up for either the cruise or the camping thing.
  51. mattyjames2001
    51

    Train Trips

    "a November 2006 travelling music festival where artists and fans on a cross-Canada train trip with nightly performances and lots of musical interplay. That particular trip featured, among others, Blackie and The Rodeo Kings, the Cowboy Junkies, and the Skydiggers"

    can't find much other info on it!!!

    Matt
  52. mcfflyer
    52

    To all you young whipersnappers -

    Do you have any idea how incredible all of this is? That I can co host a show, sitting in Sacramento that is being recorded in Toronto? And then we all sit around and chat about it? Even though we've never met, we recognize each other (or at least our names), feel little hesitation to send a message of "hi!" and feel like we're all one big happy family. Which we are of course. The internet is nothing short of amazing.

    Back when MTV first started and I had my infatuation with the Go-Go's, getting information about them (or any band at that time) was no easy matter. Subscribed to Rolling Stone just hoping to learn something - anything - about them. But today? Thanks to things like Wikipedia and the zillions of chat rooms specific to bands, the amount of information is incredible.

    And a centerpiece of it all for me is right here at radio3.
  53. tb3
    53

    Wait!

    Can't Craig get us a cut rate deal on some CN Rail Boxcars? You guys do know what the CN stands for in CN Rail, right?
  54. ryandeco
    54

    Best Station In the World

    because of of shows like this!
  55. mcfflyer
    55

    Did you know...

    that Craig's dad was a CN conductor for 41 years? Used to ride with his dad on the overnight train between Toronto and Montreal. Lucky kid!

    One thing I want to say to everyone, and something that tb3 will agree with, is that doing this co-host was an incredible amount of fun - fun because Craig made it so easy. Most of us have never spoken to Craig because his two shows are taped in advance, but to actually talk to him, I found him to be nothing short of delightful. Very funny, very encouraging - a really nice guy. When we talked about his daughter, Abby, you could hear the pride in his voice. And as much as I thought our speaking parts in the breaks came out good, you should have heard our entire conversation. Thanks, Craig. Couldn't have done it without you!
  56. AlexOfAnders
    56

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    If we're going to do an expensive trip into the wilderness, we should storm the Dawson City Music Festival. Although, I hear that Mr. Lawrence has a cottage...

    @ boat cruise - I see what you mean about it possibly being revenue neutral and I'm sure R3 has enough friends in the music business that there'd be a decent number of bands interested. Besides, it'd probably boost the bloggers as people who love R3 but don't post would also come, then see how we all have gotten to know each other and likely want in.
  57. suckamc
    57

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    Lee & Craig, these shows go by too fast!

    Enjoying it immensely!

    Martin
  58. Brand New Wave
    58

    Mr. Lawrence's cottage...

    So, we'll all show up in Desolation Sound at a given time?
  59. Mark MacArthur
    59

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    Lee.
    The story of your life is fantastic.
    And you rock at being a host.


  60. drock
    60

    Re: TCNH: Listener Co-Host Initiative w/ Lee "mcfflyer" Hower

    whew, okay so I just finished my last undergrad class EVER and am skimming through posts trying to keep up.

    an R3 cruise?! only if susan in ohio comes.

    Lee - I love your story!

    Craig - will you compile all of these co-host initiatives at some point? I've had class from 10:00-1:00 every Thurs for the past 3 months and have missed almost all of them. I don't like feeling out of the loop and not being able to support things like, um, (scrolling up quickly) parties on CN boxcars?!
  61. MusicSoop
    61

    Work

    Stuck in meetings all morning but I'm listening now. Can't wait to hear the rest of the show!

    As for meeting up... I'll be in Toronto for the Indy race in July. But I think the Windsor Searchlight show would be perfect. There's a flight to Detroit from almost everywhere. Only problem is I'm not sure we could all fit in the club.
  62. jljakobsen
    62

    also got caught up at work

    @tb3 it is pretty cool being twitter friends with you. So funny I knew exactly who you were when send me a message on flickr! I must admit that I snoop on other R3 members flickr sites. It's great to see what you lives look like.

    I am all about the R3 cruise. Lets do it! Or we could also crash Mr. Lawrence's cabin too. That would be fun...

    J
  63. Bio Spice
    63

    what a great show!

    thanks lee, thanks craig for the great show! i'm smiling all over my face.
  64. AlexOfAnders
    64

    Fantastic show Lee!

    I may have missed the first hour but really great job. You've got some very cool stories and it was a really excellent show. *round of applause*

    Craig, any chance of having these show able to play on demand? I have a feeling many of use will want to revisit them sooner and/or later.
  65. cathyort
    65

    So glad NOT the oldest

    So sorry I came in on the tail end of this! What a relief to know I'm not the oldest listener with an unexplainable affinity for Canadian indie music. I'm so jealous of that photo! We saw Sam and Mother Mother in February in Detroit, great show-- and I wasn't the oldest person there, either.
  66. cathyort
    66

    p.s.

    I'm 47. :>)
  67. whethergirl
    67

    Great Job Lee!

    Just wanted to add my kudos as well. I didn’t manage to catch all of the show, but the parts I did hear were great! Lee, you are an entertaining guy :)

    As for camping/cabin-ing, I’d definitely be in for that!
    I can never get enough camping in.
  68. tb3
    68

    Bravo!

    If know you well, and I think I do Lee, you're smiling ear-to-ear down there in Sac right now…

    + Just like you are in every photo we've ever exchanged.

    + Just like I am.

    + Just like every person who caught the show is too.

    Great, great show Lee!
  69. mcfflyer
    69

    Thanks everyone...

    And thank you John, yes I am smiling - grinning from ear to ear.

    I had a non-radio3 friend from Windsor call me right after the show to tell me he's listening, and when a high school classmate (40th reunion this summer) commented on my wall in Facebook, I emailed her immediately and told her to go here, and she emailed back, "COOL!" and she said well, here is exactly what she said, "I just finished reading all the blogs, and while doing so, the music grew on me. You are right, that is some great music they play! " This is someone who has never listened to radio3 before!

    Again, thanks to all of you, and get in line - being co host is a BLAST!

    Now I've gotten into my office attire and I'm off for work! But I'll keep checking in throughout the day. And to anyone interested, I am in Facebook as...what else?
    Lee Hower from Sacramento, California!

    PS Thanks for the shout out there Grant!

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