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Looking Back @ the Past Decade in Music w/ critic Carl Wilson

Looking Back @ the Past Decade in Music w/ critic Carl Wilson

Posted by Lisa Christiansen on Nov 20, 2009

Coming up: Carl Wilson

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I truly was not expecting end of the decade lists until next year, but it seems many a media outlet got going quick. I’ve seen lists about people who have had a bad decade – ouch! To what you favourite movie of the oughts so-far says about you. But the one list I spent a lot of time on was the The Decades 50 Most Important Recordings from NPR.

The idea behind the list is to compile not so much the best or favourite recordings, but a list of albums that “are the game-changers: records that signaled some sort of shift in the way music is made or sounds, or ones that were especially influential or historically significant."

On today’s show we’ll be looking back at these past 10 years in music and seeing if we can’t find some of these historically significant musical moments together.

I’ll be joined by Globe and Mail music critic, writer and blogger Carl Wilson… and of course – you.

Have a look at the NPR list, and tell us where you think they got it right and/or wrong.

For one thing, where’s TPain and the Auto Tune; and comedy albums like Flight of the Concords or drone metal from Sunn? That’s just three omissions from me, and what’s Amy Winehouse doing on this list? She’s always been more of an example of the train wreck that could sing…much like Britney who also made the list.

Wade in and we’ll chat.

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  1. keydive
    01

    The List

    Wow I own like half of the albums on that list.  One note Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning is not nearly as good as his Cassadaga album which I feel was a more influential album.

  2. mattyjames2001
    02

    re: Looking Back @ the Past Decade in Music w/ critic Carl Wilson

    That's an incredible list.  I can really understand why they put a majority of those on there, and have actually listened to about 75% of them I bet!

    I don't know what I would've taken off of there, maybe the Burial album. It's good but it's not really a game changer.  Kelly Clarkson was important because of the American Idol phenomenon, and half of the songs are actually pretty kick ass.  But because it's so uneven I wouldn't put it on there.  Definitely not Beyonce, she hasn't really done to change anything.

    Also, why have Animal Collective AND Panda Bear? Isn't that sort of one in the same.  Anyways, the new AC is great and probably going to be the album of this year.

    I think The Hold Steady should've been on there, just as a flag-bearer for indie Rock n Roll.  Probably their first album.  Maybe My Morning Jacket instead, or the Black Keys.  Any of those great, REAL rock bands ya know.

    And where's a Bob Dylan album? He's released a handful of his best albums in the last decade, which is really saying something.

    Lastly, J Dilla's Donuts should be included.  Amazing album, amazing dude, and there have been soooo many samples used from it, it's hard not to hear it's influence.

    P.S. as for Canadian content: the New Pornographers Twin Cinema or Broken Social Scene's You Forgot It In... Are pretty damn critically acclaimed and monumental.  Other than that, I think this list is pretty damn sweet.

     

     

  3. keydive
    03

    More Thoughts

    Bon Iver I would put more into the favorites category I don't think it was a game changing album or super influential but more along the lines of a very phenomenal and well put together album. 

    I completely agree with the two soundtracks on the list Garden State and O Brother Where Art Thou. Garden State opened up the indie music world to a lot of unexposed people and O Brother Where Art Thou completely revived mountain folk music.

  4. mattyjames2001
    04

    @keydive

    Yeah man! It's kinda scary, that's more or less a sample of my itunes.  Minus the Beyonce.....Maybe we really can be friends.

    But as for Bright Eyes, I dunno.  I probably listen to Cassadaga more (4 Winds....), and it's probably better, but for a while in 2004 you couldn't go anywhere without someone mentioning Bright Eyes.  Not "The Bright Eyes"... "Bright Eyes".  So yeah, I think it was more influential in the sense that it got people listening to something a bit more off the beaten path.

    To be honest, I'm surprised not to see the Shins on there.  And I don't even really like those taco-stand franchising SOB's.  But they had about as much influence as Bright Eyes

  5. Lisa Christiansen
    05

    re: Looking Back @ the Past Decade in Music w/ critic Carl Wilson

    Not sure what game Beyonce changed, or Norah jones, either.

  6. keydive
    06

    @Lisa

    You have to put a few in for the mainstream top 40 listening folks

  7. mattyjames2001
    07

    More random albums

    The Avalanches - Since I Left You

    Girl Talk - Feed The Animals

    Brian Wilson - Smile

    Sleater-Kinney - The Woods

    Spoon - Arguably any one of them.  Probably Kill The Moonlight

    Drive By Truckers - Southern Rock Opera

    Joe Strummer & Mescalaros - Streetcore

    For country, I woulda picked Miranda Lambert over Brad Paisley.  And the Dixies Chicks probably should be there too.

    And I know you have to be Radiohead to get TWO albums, but Kanye's Late Registration is a modern classic.  The College Dropout changed the rap game by making it more about appearance than street cred, but the symphony and orchestration in that album is flat out amazing.  Sufjan-esque really.

     

  8. mattyjames2001
    08

    @Lisa/Keydive

    re: beyonce and norah jones

    I think they picked those ones because for Top 40 material, they're actually pretty good.  I mean that not in a slant to either one of them.  Beyonce could literally just put out bass and drums with her singing about whatever she needs to, to get the people in the club dancing.  But instead she makes it pretty funky and all her own, so by being original that's pretty crazy on the Billboard charts.  I think Lady Ga Ga should be on there instead of Beyonce though.  and don't hate me..... but Justin Timberlake should've been included.  It hurts to type that but it's very true.

    As for Norah Jones, same thing.  She's pretty good, not my cup of tea, but the fact that millions of people like her and she's still able to be jazzy is  kinda cool.  Personally, I woulda picked Alicia Keys over her if that's the case.

  9. Lisa Christiansen
    09

    @keydive

    i don't think you HAVE to put in anything. I think it's pretty easy: did music change when this album came out?

  10. Absotively
    10

    Fresh Friday question

    I heard a tiny bit of your show last week, and I could have sworn I heard you play The Secretaries, but I haven't heard them on R3 since.  Can you confirm to me that they got added last Friday?  Or, alternately, that my memory of last Friday is faulty?

  11. Lisa Christiansen
    11

    @ Absotively

    Yes, added and being played.

  12. keydive
    12

    @Lisa

    I was going to try to be devil's advocate and argue that Beyonce and Nora deserve to be there but I just can't put together a valid argument. Best I have is maybe they are game changing in the fact that they proved you don't have to be overly innovative and just need to be consistent to say on Top 40 radio.  Or they are influential because of all the bands and singers that imitate there style.

  13. Babs46
    13

    re: Looking Back @ the Past Decade in Music w/ critic Carl Wilson

  14. Absotively
    14

    @Lisa

    Thank you!  I guess I've just been paying more attention to the world around me than to Radio 3 this week.  I'll have to stop that.

  15. Lisa Christiansen
    15

    @keydive

    I agree with you; i don't think I could find anymore reasons as to how these artists are innovative. I like them just fine, but what did they change? Maybe they gave hope to all the  talented, beautiful people.

  16. savvie
    16

    Wino!

    I have to disagree! IF you take away the personality, I was really impressed and excited by Amy Winehouse's album when I first heard it. It was refreshing (even if it's re-doing an old sound).

    Although i'm gonna be honest, I didn't read what the list was about, so maybe it doesn't deserve the classification that you're talking about - but I just wanted to say that it's too bad when drama takes away attention from someone who actually IS a great artist (ahem, britney).

  17. Absotively
    17

    @keydive

    I think that having a lot of people imitate your style does, indeed, make you influential.  Practically by definition.

  18. Lisa Christiansen
    18

    @Savvie

    I think Amy Winehouse has a great voice, but like Adele, Duffy and Joss Stone - what new things is going on? Sounds like Dusty Springfield. I'm okay with retro, but don't try and call it anything else.

  19. keydive
    19

    @Blog

    Well everyone have a good week as I will be sitting in a outfitters tent all of next week but don't worry I will still be listening to a few shows here and there thanks to satellite radio and a deep cycle battery.

  20. savvie
    20

    aha...

    Ok, so I caught up, and at first I was gonna say it's kind of a silly thing to try to do, "most important" is so freakin subjective - important to who?!

    But then I read why they did it, to get people exposed to new great music and stir conversation, and I can't argue with that! 

    But I was giddy with happy to see the BAD PLUS on that list - as a jazz student who really always preferred rock n' roll, they are the perfect blend of skill and talent with rockin out awesomeness!  Everyone should listen to their cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit. Or Iron Man.

  21. TheRadioHead
    21

    @savvie

    Oh man, you have worked your way right into my heart being a jazz student.  What do you play?  Or you sing?  I have a newly graduated jazz singer in the family.

     

    As for The Bad Plus, I also was very happy to see them on this list.  I had the opportunity to see them at the Jazz Fest just this year, and it was a show to remember, for sure.  Exactly what you said rockin out awesomeness.

  22. savvie
    22

    @theradiohead

    Yah, I took jazz vocals too, and a little bit of piano :O)

    The musical education was without a doubt worth it, but I was never really huge into jazz in the first place - I appricate the skill, but don't like hearing the same song re-done a hundred times. UNLESS you do it crazy different and show true creativity, like the BP!

  23. TheRadioHead
    23

    @savvie

    ya, for sure, the musical education is always valuable.  You would not write your own music?

     

    My singer has just recorded the background vocals for a friends electronic album.  Very excited for the release.

  24. canadian wannabe
    24

    re: Looking Back @ the Past Decade in Music w/ critic Carl Wilson

    lisa,  what video are you in?  i can't remember

  25. Lisa Christiansen
    25

    @canadian wannabe

    3 Inches of Blood "Battles and Brotherhood."

  26. boders
    26

    @keydive

    enjoy the time away from the crazy world

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